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May have missed it. If I did please show me the linky.

Otherwise, I want to see a Sig 556 torture test. I want it to be a brand new all American made one. I don't just want to see it fire until the shots keyhole. I want a running log on how it performs over months/ years.

I don't know who should do the shooting, but I am willing to chip in the some cash to get this going. Not much, since I am back at college and only working at the shooting range part time, but I am definitely willing to chip in $20 bucks here and there.

I think to unite this little forum, we need our own mascot, like old dirty baztard over at FAL files. Let's either dismiss or prove that our American versions of the Sig rifle are the real deal, or just weekend warrior fluff.

Anyone else in on this, ULLIE? Since you moderate, some guidance and support from your end would be MUCHO MUCHO wanted and needed.

I don't care who gets the gun, and who shots it. As long as they have the spare time to properly record and accurately record the gun's performance, maintenance, and hick-ups. Just like the FAL rifle test, we should never clean the gun, only lube it. In this case, maybe we should clean the barrel at least to keep testing accuracy.

I'll get off my soap box now, but this forum needs its own mascot. Something we can take and show to ARFs and all the other poodle punching caliber semi lovers that our rifle is worry of some respect.
 

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I did this once with a Colt AR15. 3000 rounds in 2 days without cleaning or lube and it didn't jam. Back then I picked up the ammo for $490. Now it would be 4 times that so if I do a test it will have to be 500 rounds in 1 hour.
 

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200 views and 1 responce. Ouch, guess this board isn't long for this world.

Ohh well, maybe one of us will win the lottery and help us out.
 

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I recently shot 200 rds in about an hour at our range. Other than the top of the gun getting hot, it ran perfectly. Slow fire, and a several body armor drills, 2+1, until the mag was emptied. There was not one FTF or other hiccup. Used Pmag, AR mag by Colt, and the Sig Factory mags.

The last few rounds were TAP ammo and my grouping was excellent. It may be 300 rounds short of the torture test, but it still confirmed my faith in my rifle.

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Lt Tim said:
I recently shot 200 rds in about an hour at our range. Other than the top of the gun getting hot, it ran perfectly. Slow fire, and a several body armor drills, 2+1, until the mag was emptied. There was not one FTF or other hiccup. Used Pmag, AR mag by Colt, and the Sig Factory mags.

The last few rounds were TAP ammo and my grouping was excellent. It may be 300 rounds short of the torture test, but it still confirmed my faith in my rifle.

Tim
When I first got my P556, I shot 500rds of Wolf Military Classic through it in less than 1 week before I cleaned it---not a SINGLE problem---Sig mags and PMags
 

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Toture Test??? Let's paint it pink and feed it wolf ammo for a month straight and lube it with that old pretty smelling COLT oil.

I think I can make my SIg talk in less than 1 week with that kind of treatment.

If that doesn't work, I will paint Hello Kitty faces on the new a2 buttstock and replace the front forend with a coat hanger wrapped in muffler tape.

If it doesn't talk yet then, I will clean the barrel with a steel rod and stainless brushes from the front using WD40 as the cleaner and lube.

Still no talking, the torture continues., I will shoot it "ghetto style" turned sideways at 25 ft targets shaped like Tulips while only using the old style backup iron sights and thrusting my hips forward with each shot.

Then I will get medieval, I will create a 22LR conversion for it and tell everyone it the coolest AR-15 I have ever owned and replace all the parts I can with only GENUINE COLT stamped sights, buttstocks, Mags, etc.

NOW, that's a torture test.

If' that's not enough, I will send it off to have it hard chromed with Gold accents. and have PIMP bejeweled into the buttstock with Rhinestones. Then I will put in into many many RAP videos featuring such lyrical mastepieces as,
"MY SIG MY GAT, MY B*TCH GOT SHOT FOR CALLING THEM WACK! !!"

I will make my sig talk, we just need the right torture test.
 

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Toture Test??? Let's paint it pink and feed it wolf ammo for a month straight and lube it with that old pretty smelling COLT oil.

I think I can make my SIg talk in less than 1 week with that kind of treatment.

If that doesn't work, I will paint Hello Kitty faces on the new a2 buttstock and replace the front forend with a coat hanger wrapped in muffler tape.

If it doesn't talk yet then, I will clean the barrel with a steel rod and stainless brushes from the front using WD40 as the cleaner and lube.

Still no talking, the torture continues., I will shoot it "ghetto style" turned sideways at 25 ft targets shaped like Tulips while only using the old style backup iron sights and thrusting my hips forward with each shot.

Then I will get medieval, I will create a 22LR conversion for it and tell everyone it the coolest AR-15 I have ever owned and replace all the parts I can with only GENUINE COLT stamped sights, buttstocks, Mags, etc.

NOW, that's a torture test.

If' that's not enough, I will send it off to have it hard chromed with Gold accents. and have PIMP bejeweled into the buttstock with Rhinestones. Then I will put in into many many RAP videos featuring such lyrical mastepieces as,
"MY SIG MY GAT, MY B*TCH GOT SHOT FOR CALLING THEM WACK! !!"

I will make my sig talk, we just need the right torture test.
I'm..... so..... very..... disturbed......
 

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Hmmm, I don't know, call me crazy but I have this thing about torturing a weapon I spent $1700 on. YOU'RE more than welcome to go for it though, let us know how it works out for ya.
 

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Here, have the old SIG trials/torture tests done on the 550 and 551. Pretty neat stuff, especially where they talk about expected barrel and components life vs. what they've seen on some factory rifles used as test beds.

A few things to note: These are actual swiss rifles, not the US ones. There are some pretty significant changes made in the US guns and you damned well better believe they're going to have effects across the extreme time spans that they get into with those. How will a 55x lower made out of stamped steel fare across 100k rounds compared to an aluminum one? Beats me, but different material using a different production process is probably going to generate different kinds of longevity. Same thing for barrel life, etc. God only knows how the US barrels stack up against the SIG barrels, especially since there is a lot of discrepancy across the various sub-types of American 556/551A1 rifles when it comes to barrels.

That said, it's neat, it's directly applicable to those few of us who own actual 550/1/2/3 rifles, and at least gives me something to daydream about while I continue to happily chew into my Russian ammo stockpile with my American gun.
 

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I would not care to torture my own rifle. If a rifle and ammo were provided, it would not be a big deal. It never fails to amaze me what people do to their guns, Glock's especially just to see what it takes to make them fail. I don't want mine to fail, I want them to run long enough to pass on to my kids and let them fight over who gets what.

I'm don't take the greatest care of my guns like some, that after every range trip it gets detail stripped and cleaned. I give it a light scrubbing and store it till next time. They have yet to fail me.
 

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So not a torture test, but if ran 1500 rds in a 3 day class in one of my 556 patrols and it had about 2k rounds in it before the class. I have yet to clean it. So 3500 rds and no cleaning, still using the standard pressure on the gas key. She shoots like a dream.
 

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May have missed it. If I did please show me the linky.

Otherwise, I want to see a Sig 556 torture test. I want it to be a brand new all American made one. I don't just want to see it fire until the shots keyhole. I want a running log on how it performs over months/ years.

I don't know who should do the shooting, but I am willing to chip in the some cash to get this going. Not much, since I am back at college and only working at the shooting range part time, but I am definitely willing to chip in $20 bucks here and there.

I think to unite this little forum, we need our own mascot, like old dirty baztard over at FAL files. Let's either dismiss or prove that our American versions of the Sig rifle are the real deal, or just weekend warrior fluff.

Anyone else in on this, ULLIE? Since you moderate, some guidance and support from your end would be MUCHO MUCHO wanted and needed.

I don't care who gets the gun, and who shots it. As long as they have the spare time to properly record and accurately record the gun's performance, maintenance, and hick-ups. Just like the FAL rifle test, we should never clean the gun, only lube it. In this case, maybe we should clean the barrel at least to keep testing accuracy.

I'll get off my soap box now, but this forum needs its own mascot. Something we can take and show to ARFs and all the other poodle punching caliber semi lovers that our rifle is worry of some respect.
Just FYI Ullie has passed away. Secondly, there is a lot of data the Swiss have out there on "torture" testing.if the platform did not work it would be replaced by now. These guns are shooters...Not meant to be stuck in a safe with a quart of oil all over it, not meant to have 20 gadgets like fuzzy dice in a Caprice dangling off it.....it is meant to be a battle/service rifle. If we did not live in an ar15 brainwashed gun culture we would not have the the slander against the rifle from all the arf.com crowd stirs up here. Trust me, I have had the patrol, i now have the rifle, and an SBR. They all go boom every time.
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These guns are shooters...Not meant to be stuck in a safe with a quart of oil all over it
Mine all have the black worn off of them from ejection love, a nice upturned half moustache. But I still drizzled oil over them and stuck them in the safe. :D Ya know, I had to break them in...and in....and in....and in....
 

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Mine all have the black worn off of them from ejection love, a nice upturned half moustache. But I still drizzled oil over them and stuck them in the safe. :D Ya know, I had to break them in...and in....and in....and in....
Lol..;) my rifle rides with me every day along with my get home bag and my full kit.. I grew up a boy Scout, I need to be ready. :) I train with it as much as i can afford. As far as your rifle goes, it is good to hear you like your brass mustache :{
God bless
 

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That was my first interest in the Sigs--how small I could have the envelope while still maintaining a good barrel length. That's what you take advantage of w/making it a kit/vehicle gun, the folder. My only complaint about them is they're so much fun to shoot and the triggers so nice, I don't shoot the ARs as much as I should.....
 
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