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Anyone have an mcx in 5.56 thst they can compare to their 5.56? Pros and cons? Thanks
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If the MCX can in any way be compared to the way Sig handled the 556, the MCX is doomed too.
I don't have the impression Sig has invested so much in a new platform to blow it off.
The 556 was, after all, a copy of a great 40 year old design intended to appeal to a small segment of the market. They tried to tacticalize it, but not ever resulting in anything new and novel for a very competitive market.
Assault rifles should be a competitive market?
Finally, the 556 run is over and Im sure Sig is ready to forget about it like a bad dream.

I don't have a MCX, but based on what I've seen I find the upper being very interesting claiming to have a truly variable short stroke gas system. That should get a lot of attention if it works as advertisied.
Not interested in anything Sig anymore after the 556XI scam. I vote with my limited funds!
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Not interested in anything Sig anymore after the 556XI scam. I vote with my limited funds!
i couldn't agree more. i like consistency. being able to accumulate parts and options. dumping a platform after a few years is a big turn off. Look at AK's, m1a's and such. you have potential of generations that are familair with a platform and a maturity of parts and service. the sig 55x could be that for sig, such a blown opportunity. even if it has not been a financial windfall for them yet, you have had a growing movement of people that realize the platforms positives and possibilities. Such a waste. Even with the xi's they should have kept the classic going also. Look at glock, you can still get gen 3 or gen 4, they let the market decide even though im sure they'd like to end the gen 3's, knock on wood.
My M1A SOCOM 16 is my GOTO rifle. The 556XI should have been.

I mail sell it and be done with Sig!
The more good videos I see of the MCX doing it's thing, the more I like it.
Staggering super sonic and sub sonic 300 BLKT on full auto suppressed with no failure tells me this thing works. That's what Sig desperately needs now is a money maker that works.

I can't get sentimental on the 556, I didn't even know what it was when I got in on the group purchase at work. I had a choice of 556 or 516.
I'm glad I choose the 556. Its a neat gun and has never FTF/FTE.
Is it my fav go to best gun ever? For now, yes. After I run out of 00 sweetly delivered from my absolutely gorgeous 1976 Ithaca 37 Deer Slayer Police Special Featherweight.

But wait just a minute!
As much as I love the 556, put a can on it, run mixed ammo, get dirty, what not, and eventually we will have trouble.
Therefore, I love my cream pie as long as she's clean and purdy in the safe.
I'm looking for the shooter that will digest whatever I feed it, with a can or not.
That gun is usually called an AK, but I prefer 5.56 and STANAG mags, for some reason, so my AK options are limited.

The black rifle market is AR dominant, for all the obvious reasons. Sig took the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" route and did what I think is one of the smartest design decisions yet:
Develop a totally new design upper (AKA Honey Badger) without redesigning the legacy lower. There are not any complaints about the AR lower anyways.
This move will allow shooters to use their fav AR lowers with Timney triggers without buying a new gun.
Put another D in high office and that will likely change, but for now this is amazing utility and a great attribute of the AR platform. The MCX takes full advantage.

As for the speculation on quality I don't know, I don't have one. However if I ask myself if it could be worse, a few names come to mind like Kel-Tek, Hi-Point, Taurus, Umarex, Norinco.
So yes, quality could be much worse from the start.
Yes, a side charge handle is nice, but so is no reciprocating parts to get caught on.
We shall see...

I like this gem I found here:
SIG MCX rifles now shipping

"The 556 series was a derivative of the 550 (which could not be imported), but US designed and made. It fell well short of the original Swiss made 550. The American Sig as you know it really was a completely different company than the European one. IIRC, the American company started life as an importer who later bought the name and began producing arms under the Sig name.

If anything the Xi line was the detour that needn't happen as the MCX and MPX lines is a much better and fresher product/thinking from the ground up. The 556 was borrowed and imitated copy of the original that had many flaws. When I say flaws I don't mean it didn't work. It worked well but had characteristics a $1200+ product shouldn't have—like loose fitting handguards and charging handles that would divorce itself from the bolt carrier during firing. Some of the issues are to be expected for a service issue combat rifle, but borderline acceptable for an expensive consumer product. The 556/550s are old, out-dated designs that do not measure up to a marketplace that is moving on to next generation designs. It makes zero business sense to dwell on them.

For the money the MCX/MPX are far more fitting of their price tags.

I own a 100% running 556R and many other Sig products. I'm not slamming Sig. Just telling it like it is."

Same page:
"Also, I believe the ones shipped to Cabela's may have been pistols. Those had an auto regulating gas block where the rifles shipping now have a two position gas block for suppressed / unsuppressed. The description posted at top by Guns.com is incorrect as the rifles shipping now don't feature an auto regulating gas system."

I just called the Sig CS rep and asked about "auto regulating" and "adjustable" gas valves for the MCX. He said both rifle and pistol will have "switchable" valves. I don't know if the switchable valves will have an "automatic" self regulating element or not. Im shooting from the hip here, but for me, the only thing that's automatic is the confusion. I need to read the user manuals for these.

***UPDATE***
Called John @ CS today. Only the first production run has auto regulating valves. All the current production have switchable position valves. Funny how they havn't bothered to update the publicity.
I asked why the change over and the vague answer was they "wanted to stick with what they knew (switchable valve). There was also a hint that they wanted to avoid early problems, but John said the auto regulators are reliable. He could not give me any production dates or SNs or distinguishing attributes of the auto units.

My advice is if you wants an auto regulating unit, get it now. Only a few thousand were made. If that.

**UPDATE**
Spoke with Brad at Osage County Guns. He stated that the valve change was a result of FTFeed problems. He would not recommend the auto regulating valve.
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Not interested in anything new from Sig anymore. They are in essence the VW of the US gun industry who are disorganized and dishonest. The P238 was the poster child of a pistol released too early & there is more including the 556XI. Most AR's are based on the Stoner design and are somewhat improved but have limitations.
Not interested in anything new from Sig anymore. They are in essence the VW of the US gun industry who are disorganized and dishonest. The P238 was the poster child of a pistol released too early & there is more including the 556XI. Most AR's are based on the Stoner design and are somewhat improved but have limitations.
so Sigs CEO will get a $60 million severance package too?
I will get an mcx but my go to guns will stay my 556xi's in 556 caliber. I swapped the trigger out on the one that double shot on me 2 times in 2000 rounds and it works flawlessly(no double shots) while shooting 1" groups at 100 yards with 62 grain fusion msr softpoints. With tromex tough extended charging handles, krebs extended safety, ddls stock adapter and shooting sight triggers that have made trigger pull 4lbs i feel i have the best guns available to anyone. I trust them to go bang everytime. I will just go into all future purchases knowing ahead of time not to expect any conversion kits. Yes Sig misled me on the conversion parts and ticked me off bad with the 6 month wait for aluminum handguards but the sig rifles i have now are awesome!
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I like what I see in the MCX also, but with Sigs track record with the 556, its a no brainer NO GO for me
The 556 I have is a great rifle. I doubt I'll ever fire enough rounds to wear it out, but I would like to find some extra parts for it.
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Any recent experience / recommendations on an aftermarket trigger for the MCX?(.300blk). I'd like to buy the trigger while I'm waiting on the MCX to arrive. Any/all tips welcomed. Thanks.
Any recent experience / recommendations on an aftermarket trigger for the MCX?(.300blk). I'd like to buy the trigger while I'm waiting on the MCX to arrive. Any/all tips welcomed. Thanks.
I thought any AR trigger will drop in. My buddy likes ALG Defense ACT trigger
Advanced Combat Trigger (ACT)
He didn't use it in an MCX
I thought any AR trigger will drop in. My buddy likes ALG Defense ACT trigger
Advanced Combat Trigger (ACT)
thanks, I'll check that one out.

I believe it may be so early in the life of the MCX that no one here has tried it with an aftermarket drop in trigger, however, if you have, or even have second hand knowledge/info that may be helpful, please advise. Much thanks guys.
Been watching a lot of reviews on the mcx. Nut n fancy says this rifle is the best available. Even the military arms channel reviewed it and said it was great. He usually is a sig hater. Im going to have to reconcider my stance on this and sell a couple of my xi's and get 2 mcx's. Ill think on it over Christmas. I just wish it had a left side charging handle. I hate the rear charging handles. Anyone shot the 556 or 762x39 mcx yet? What you think about it?
I have seen pictures of the MCX that ships with both 5.56 and 300 black out barrels. Looks like that option is for real. All future rifles for me must have folding stocks and be beyond the "once they get the bugs worked out" phase. But I like that it is a featherweight.
Been watching a lot of reviews on the mcx. Nut n fancy says this rifle is the best available. Even the military arms channel reviewed it and said it was great. He usually is a sig hater. Im going to have to reconcider my stance on this and sell a couple of my xi's and get 2 mcx's. Ill think on it over Christmas. I just wish it had a left side charging handle. I hate the rear charging handles. Anyone shot the 556 or 762x39 mcx yet? What you think about it?
i've been noticing a lot of very positive reviews myself on the MCX. you can charge it from either left or right from many of the videos I've seen, of course you can pull straight back with both fingers or you can use left or right and appears to operate just fine either way.

my MC X in 300 blackout is on its way I'm hoping to have it by the end of January. of the many reviews and videos I've seen and read, very few were negative.
I held one yesterday. I thought the gas valve selector access holes in the hand guard could be larger. I noticed a removable plate on the left side about where a charging handle would be, but still only right side eject. I've never owned an all metal gun, so the feel of cold alm under my paws and jowels takes getting used to. The flat folder makes for a very slim package indeed. All business no funny stuff here.
Im going to have to reconcider my stance on this and sell a couple of my xi's
You know you'll regret it
My M1A SOCOM 16 is my GOTO rifle. The 556XI should have been.
I mail sell it and be done with Sig!
I have my originals off site, stored. They are my 'go to' guns if things ever get bad enough I need to 'go there'. They are also my investments as I can say "they only made 4K of these and if you want to build one, good luck as it'll cost a LOT of money".

So sig helped me and 4K other people out, but did a great disservice to their long gun line--they just couldn't get it together.

For my go to here, I have adams arms short strokers
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