Have you ever hear the saying, Don't believe everything you read?
If you have a problem with it, send it back to SIG, they will take care of you.
If you have a problem with it, send it back to SIG, they will take care of you.
Sig Diopter Rear Sight- Help!
:roll: I have read that this sight is supposed to be a POS, but I cannot help but think that Sig would purposely use them then. Is there any thing that can be done to it to make it a good and reliable sight ( don't bother saying use the trash can.)? I would really like to use Sig gear on my rifle. Thanks- John 
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...IMO...it's all about saving and making money John...and what " Sig's conception is" of what the "average" consumer will accept...and be happy with...most "recreational shooters" buy a rifle...take it to the range every once and a while...and fire a few rounds...and in this context...their accessories work...for the most part...papascull said:
...the Sig diopter isn't a POS...however...IMO there are better options...honestly...papascull said:: I would really like to use Sig gear on my rifle. Thanks- John
...why do you want to use Sig gear...their optics are waaay overpriced...and the quality and durability just isn't there...they work most of the time...and are good enough for light recreational use...but the value just isn't there...IMO...there are far better options...
...my school of thought is...better to buy " reasonably good" quality...one good rifle...one good optic...one good set of sights...instead of several low end " sometimes costly" products that you will eventually outgrow or need to replace...
...if you want a nice diopter sighting system...i would recomend the Aurora set...less that half the price of the Swiss set...and argueable just as good...or close...and far superior to the Sig diopter IMO...
Filing the front
Well, elnonio, I have filed the front down using the barrel as a center for the target which put me on the paper. Ullie once told me that, ofcourse he said to not file any more. I also agree with him there. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet with any of the sights on. I had also ordered the front as a take-off from a fellow on this site. I had bought the ER version of the 556 (no longer available from Sig) and it had the wide flip-up post on front and the "lollipop" flip-up on th rear. Rather poor sights. I DO like the Sig diopter... but with all the complaints from guys on the site about the quality of it, I began to worry. Hence, this thread from this PO. I need to take the 556 out and see where I am hitting ASAP. John Scull :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, elnonio, I have filed the front down using the barrel as a center for the target which put me on the paper. Ullie once told me that, ofcourse he said to not file any more. I also agree with him there. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet with any of the sights on. I had also ordered the front as a take-off from a fellow on this site. I had bought the ER version of the 556 (no longer available from Sig) and it had the wide flip-up post on front and the "lollipop" flip-up on th rear. Rather poor sights. I DO like the Sig diopter... but with all the complaints from guys on the site about the quality of it, I began to worry. Hence, this thread from this PO. I need to take the 556 out and see where I am hitting ASAP. John Scull :lol: :lol: :lol:Re: Filing the front
In short, you first want to get your rear sight at mechanical zero, or a little below to allow for more up elevation than down elevation. Carefully shooting the best group you can at, say, 50 yards, the formula is (all in inches):
(sight radius x distance from point of aim)/distance to target
So, with a sight radius of (say) 17.5 inches and a group that is 15 inches low at 1800 inches (50 yds) the amount to remove would be 0.146 inches. As you can see, a little goes a long way, and it would be all to easy to over do it!
Actually, I posted on another thread the way to calculate the amount of front sight to remove. This is not meant to be a guesstimate game, which in the case of the hooded sight could be a costly experiment!papascull said:
In short, you first want to get your rear sight at mechanical zero, or a little below to allow for more up elevation than down elevation. Carefully shooting the best group you can at, say, 50 yards, the formula is (all in inches):
(sight radius x distance from point of aim)/distance to target
So, with a sight radius of (say) 17.5 inches and a group that is 15 inches low at 1800 inches (50 yds) the amount to remove would be 0.146 inches. As you can see, a little goes a long way, and it would be all to easy to over do it!
Re: Filing the front
...why would you file down your front sight ?...bore sighting just gives you a starting point to get on paper...
...if the front sight and rear sight are "compatable"...you should never come close to maxing out or running out of elevation adjustment...if you do...there are one or more issues with the weapon that is causing it to shoot too low !!!
...it is my understanding that some of the Samson sights were assembled with the tall AR "standard" front sight post that is used in the "standard" front sight base of the M16...in which case you could file it down a little...OR...change it out to the shorter front sight post...as used in the "taller" F marked front sight base of the M4...IF you cannot zero your 556 in elevation using the shorter front sightpost...or are close to bottoming it out...your rifle is shooting too low...and should be returned to Sig for adjustment...
...the Sig hooded front sight and the Sig Sauer rear diopter are designed to be used in conjunction with each other...there should not be a need to file down the front sight...you should be able to zero @ 100 meters using anything close to NATO standard ammunition in velosity by using the 100 meter setting on the diopter and the elevation ring...POA=POI...as per manual...if you run out of elevation travel...or close to it...my best guess is that your 556 is shooting too low and needs to go back to Sig Sauer for adjustment...
...you haven't zeroed your rifle with live ammunition ?...or tried to...papascull said:
I have not had the chance to shoot it yet with any of the sights on.
I need to take the 556 out and see where I am hitting ASAP
...why would you file down your front sight ?...bore sighting just gives you a starting point to get on paper...
...if the front sight and rear sight are "compatable"...you should never come close to maxing out or running out of elevation adjustment...if you do...there are one or more issues with the weapon that is causing it to shoot too low !!!
...it is my understanding that some of the Samson sights were assembled with the tall AR "standard" front sight post that is used in the "standard" front sight base of the M16...in which case you could file it down a little...OR...change it out to the shorter front sight post...as used in the "taller" F marked front sight base of the M4...IF you cannot zero your 556 in elevation using the shorter front sightpost...or are close to bottoming it out...your rifle is shooting too low...and should be returned to Sig for adjustment...
...the Sig hooded front sight and the Sig Sauer rear diopter are designed to be used in conjunction with each other...there should not be a need to file down the front sight...you should be able to zero @ 100 meters using anything close to NATO standard ammunition in velosity by using the 100 meter setting on the diopter and the elevation ring...POA=POI...as per manual...if you run out of elevation travel...or close to it...my best guess is that your 556 is shooting too low and needs to go back to Sig Sauer for adjustment...
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