[SWJewellTN]

I'm a brand new owner of a SIG556 DMR, and I found this forum researching it after the purchase. So I come into this technical forum to find problem after problem with the 556.

Did I buy a piece of crap?

 

[ullie]

...NO...you bought one of the best piston driven rifles ever produced...really !

...i bought two ! ... :wink:

 

[SWJewellTN]

Then what's with all of the problems? I mean, DANG! I didn't expect to see so many entries in the technical forum reporting fairly serious problems.

 

[ullie]

...whenever you have tens of thousands of units produced you'll have a handful that need attention...whether it's a Sig...Colt...FN...and so on...has Sig made some bad decisions...IMO..yes...have they fallen down here and there on their warrenty issues...yes again IMO...but no more than the other manufacturers...keep in mind also that many of these issues would not be occuring if the owners properly prepared their 556s and used "good ammunition and good magazines"...as you should with every firearm...especially when new !


...honestly...the 556 is a great rifle...go out and shoot her and enjoy yourself...

 

[Buck Rogers]

Yea, Sig's quality control is kind of mediocre and that let rifles out of the factory with pretty obvious problems.

However, all the problems are with relatively minor things that do not affect the system as a whole. The design materials and craftmenship of the basic system are up to snuff, its just in the way some of the other stuff gets put together that can be sloppy.

I have one of those 'problem' rifles. I had to send it back to Sig because the screws on the optic rail wouldn't sit flush and the upper to lower fit was loose.

They fixed both those problems, and appart from the that, my rifle has become my favorite. Mine has never had a malfunction of any kind, and will shoot at just over 4" at 300 yards consistently. I think it may do even better because I haven't been shooting rifles very long and a lot of that error is probably my fault. It has done 2.75" at 300 yards once.



I agree, it is ridiculous that a rifle with a MSRP just under 2k should have this low of standards for quality control, but Sig will fix thier mistakes and I still trust the rest of the gun completely.

 

[SkyPup]

I'm a brand new owner of a SIG556 DMR, and I found this forum researching it after the purchase. So I come into this technical forum to find problem after problem with the 556.

Did I buy a piece of crap?

If you hear hoofprints charging, don't think zebras, think horses.... :idea:

 

[Zeus]

Does anyone ever stop to think "when" something is produced is as bad as "where or who". Look at the state of our fking country. Look at the economy and business in general. Look at the way America does business. It's a miracle anyone can build anything worth a sh!t in the last 2 yrs. SIG, HK, Nightforce etc, etc... are not immune to bad economics, hiring a person who they thought was qualified and lied on there application or trying to meet production schedules after laying off half their people to deal with increased taxes and other costs. Steyr can't even import their high quality guns anymore because our dollar sucks so hard. If they had a factory here like SIG they would be told to "cut back" in any way they can to save cost. I know this from experience. I work for the #1 business jet manufacturer in the world. We have been told to "cheap out" on everything you can think of. The only thing keeping us going is our reputation for quality and the fact that our competitors suck that much more, so it seems we are still the best there is. No company is immune to these ideas, but I have seen SIG taking steps to try and right the ship which is more than I can say about a lot of companies. I don't spend $100 or more on anything until I research the sh!t out of it and I suggest you do the same. I don't care who's name is on it. Maybe they got a new CEO. Maybe they got bought out or merged. It changes as fast as you can blink. Before I buy another SIG, I will go over the thing with a fine tooth comb. I will buy and original 556 or a very new one, nothing built on 2009. I have had zero problems with mine or the 4 SIG pistol I have purchased since 2008. That doesn't mean I don't think it can happen. You can bet when I do find a problem I will post it but thousands of others won't post when they get a good one so it will look like SIG has gone to sh!t because only the problem guns get posted. I hope this will bring some people into an new way of thinking not just about guns but about any products they buy. The purpose of this forum is to help folks out and learn. You go anywhere, AR15.com, Glock forums, everyone has problems. Companies all the time buy trusted names and then sell cheap junk through them to make a big buck. Be ware. Measure a company on what they do to fix a problem for you not the fact that there was a problem. Sorry about the long post but if you live your life throwing money at things without researching them you are going to lose out more times than not. Now on the other part of the topic, I don't understand, after researching, why anyone would buy a DMR anyway, unless it just looks cool? I am ready to be educated about that, so please give me your reasons

 

[scooby&thesig]

Zeus, you made some really good point, points that I have come across on multiple other forums. Using Steyr is a excellent example, one that aggravates me as they were just about to import the new models with a super duper kick arse finish that was supposed to be way better than Glocks tenifer finish. Anyways, to further your point, look at Armalite, they were bought out and the name is being pimped out while their products doo doo. I think alot of American companies are producing cut back crap, but still charge a high amount. It sucks.

 

[scoom]

No company is immune to these ideas, but I have seen SIG taking steps to try and right the ship which is more than I can say about a lot of companies. I don't care who's name is on it.

Well said, I have several Sigs, Glock, Springfield, Bushmaster, etc... guess which one is the POS? my brand new Glock36. Many LEO trust their lives by GLOCK's, they are supposed to be the best. I get a jammed round every 1-20. It happens, I have changed ammo, still the same. I cant depend on that gun to save my life, so I carry my Sig...

 

[racenet]

Well said, I have several Sigs, Glock, Springfield, Bushmaster, etc... guess which one is the POS? my brand new Glock36. Many LEO trust their lives by GLOCK's, they are supposed to be the best. I get a jammed round every 1-20. It happens, I have changed ammo, still the same. I cant depend on that gun to save my life, so I carry my Sig...

Being the best and being the lowest bidder are two very different things. :wink:

 

[ullie]

...honestly...the 556 is a great rifle...go out and shoot her and enjoy yourself...

If you hear hoofprints charging, don't think zebras, think horses.... :idea:

 

[SWJewellTN]

Now on the other part of the topic, I don't understand, after researching, why anyone would buy a DMR anyway, unless it just looks cool? I am ready to be educated about that, so please give me your reasons

I'm 49 years old and under no delusions of storming a stronghold of zombies. I don't give a crap about tacticool. I had an M4 and didn't like its lack of accuracy. I have a Savage Model 12 .308 for distance shooting, but the 556 offered less expensive practice. Lastly, it was recommended by a VERY trustworthy gunshop owner: hence, why I was so concerned with the OP.

Makes sense?

 

[Grutch]

I've had to return everything I've purchased from Sig Sauer for either an exchange or repair from 2008/2009. Perhaps I'm just really unlucky with what I received from them. The thumbs up for Sig is that they will take back anything you have bought for them for a repair or exchange. If that's how they want to do things, fine.

My rifle is now flawless and accurate and will be my go-to rifle when the fit hits the shan.

-Grutch

 

[racenet]

My rifle is now flawless and accurate and will be my go-to rifle when the fit hits the shan.

:lol:

 

[Reblyell]

I'm a brand new owner of a SIG556 DMR, and I found this forum researching it after the purchase. So I come into this technical forum to find problem after problem with the 556.

Did I buy a piece of crap?

I'm in the same boat as you, friend. I found this site after buying my 556 SCM, and was taken by surprise at the plethora of negative posts concerning this rifle. I have two of the negatives outright: Rifle was produced in the allegedly 'cursed' 2009 period, and she's ripe for the bolt carrier wear/ trunnion 'hump' affliction. As Zeus indicated, research is a buyer's best friend. I will admit that I did not research the rifle as thoroughly as I should have. I bought it because of SIG's reputation based on my P226 ownership (Best handgun I own!). I will also admit that I would not have bought the 556 if I had found this site first. So, after everything is said and done (and $1700.00 worth of rifle and accessories later), my dilemma now, if you will, is to either dump her while she's still unfired (by me anyway), or use her and come what may. Good luck with yours and safe shooting! Best!

 

[Sarge1998]

I'm a brand new owner of a SIG556 DMR, and I found this forum researching it after the purchase. So I come into this technical forum to find problem after problem with the 556.

Did I buy a piece of crap?

I'm in the same boat as you, friend. I found this site after buying my 556 SCM, and was taken by surprise at the plethora of negative posts concerning this rifle. I have two of the negatives outright: Rifle was produced in the allegedly 'cursed' 2009 period, and she's ripe for the bolt carrier wear/ trunnion 'hump' affliction. As Zeus indicated, research is a buyer's best friend. I will admit that I did not research the rifle as thoroughly as I should have. I bought it because of SIG's reputation based on my P226 ownership (Best handgun I own!). I will also admit that I would not have bought the 556 if I had found this site first. So, after everything is said and done (and $1700.00 worth of rifle and accessories later), my dilemma now, if you will, is to either dump her while she's still unfired (by me anyway), or use her and come what may. Good luck with yours and safe shooting! Best!

You're ready to "dump" it without even firing it? Is this more sarcasm?

 

[Reblyell]

LOL! Sarcasm? No. Just a decision I feel must be made based on what I have learned on this very informative forum. Best!

 

[racenet]

Sounds more like $1700+ buyers remorse to me.

 

[Reblyell]

Sounds more like $1700+ buyers remorse to me.

That too!

 

[elnonio]

You're ready to "dump" it without even firing it? Is this more sarcasm?

NIB fetches more than once fired. While firing it would either confirm or dispel worries, it is the second best option. The first best option of course would have been not purchasing in the first place, and researching before hand.

OP: Having said that, I say give her a go and enjoy it.

However, if you're one of those that will likely find a fault in anything once the seed of doubt has been planted, then spare yourself the grief and sell before putting any use on it.