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 Post subject: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:06 pm 

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I have a 556ER, the one with the AR stock and buffer tube, and this looks like a fun toy.

http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php? ... ts_id=1082

I know people have modified magpul MIAD grips designed for AR's to fit on the sig, but this probably has metal where that grip had plastic. Hmmmm.

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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:31 pm 

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Buck Rogers wrote:
I have a 556ER, the one with the AR stock and buffer tube, and this looks like a fun toy.

http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php? ... ts_id=1082

I know people have modified magpul MIAD grips designed for AR's to fit on the sig, but this probably has metal where that grip had plastic. Hmmmm.


why something odd? the 556-6 is coming with a S/1/3/20 switch. :D
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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:10 pm 

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Have a friend of mine who bought one. Took him a very short amount of time before he could control the mechanism to fire the controlled bursts you see on the video. He loves it but you can really chew through some ammo! It also goes without saying the barrel get's very hot!!
Told me he was out in his "back forty" a couple weeks ago and his neighbors were doing some shooting of their own all around him. He loaded up a 60 shot drum magazine and proceeded to fire off the entire mag in a matter of a few minutes. After that, he said the entire area went quiet. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:17 am 

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FlatCheese wrote:
Have a friend of mine who bought one. Took him a very short amount of time before he could control the mechanism to fire the controlled bursts you see on the video. He loves it but you can really chew through some ammo! It also goes without saying the barrel get's very hot!!
Told me he was out in his "back forty" a couple weeks ago and his neighbors were doing some shooting of their own all around him. He loaded up a 60 shot drum magazine and proceeded to fire off the entire mag in a matter of a few minutes. After that, he said the entire area went quiet. :)


Feel like doing me a huge favor taking a look with your 556 side by side next to his AR and see if you think the stock will fit a 556? If you have a 556 with an AR buffer tube, you could do me a HUGE favor and try putting the stock on your rifle and let me know how it fits.

Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:26 am 

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Buck Rogers wrote:
FlatCheese wrote:
Have a friend of mine who bought one. Took him a very short amount of time before he could control the mechanism to fire the controlled bursts you see on the video. He loves it but you can really chew through some ammo! It also goes without saying the barrel get's very hot!!
Told me he was out in his "back forty" a couple weeks ago and his neighbors were doing some shooting of their own all around him. He loaded up a 60 shot drum magazine and proceeded to fire off the entire mag in a matter of a few minutes. After that, he said the entire area went quiet. :)


Feel like doing me a huge favor taking a look with your 556 side by side next to his AR and see if you think the stock will fit a 556? If you have a 556 with an AR buffer tube, you could do me a HUGE favor and try putting the stock on your rifle and let me know how it fits.

Thanks.


Yessir; that would be a large help!


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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:52 pm 

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Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I'll see this guy tomorrow and will set up a time I can meet him at his farm. As soon as I do, I'll report back. Based on what he's told me, as long as the existing stock you have now is adjustable with the mil-spec buffer tube, the SSAR-15 stock should work.
I'll see what I can find out and will get back with you.

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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:44 pm 

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Bump. No pun intended.


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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:36 pm 

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No it will not :evil: according to the slidefire website...but I wonder if one was to take an ACE adapter and try that out?


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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:51 pm 

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I installed one of these Slide Fire stocks on a friend's DPMS banger carbine. It will not fit on a 556 ER because the 556's pistol grip is further forward than it is on a standard AR lower. In addition, i believe the 556's lower receiver is thicker in the rear and the Slidefire overlaps the receiver...i do not think it will clear everything properly, sorry.

Now, please allow me a little rant...sorry again...

You say something about metal on the slidefire and i had to laugh. This thing is made totally of plastic except for one pin in the stock that engages the buffer tube. I am blind and even to me this thing is ass-ugly. Its molded plastic with visible lines and just awful styling. Its bulky without having much mass which is crazy from a design point of view. I have held ATI and Tapco plastic stocks that felt better to me.

Still, a lot of people like bump firing and i could see getting this stock for $50-$100....but $350? The price is the true definition of 'out of line.' It could not cost them more than $25 to produce each stock and i am being generous and allow for the cost of the molds.

You are paying the price of a decent used pistol to make your AR look fugly and for what? To give yourself a sore trigger finger, to put undue wear on your carbine, and to chew through ammo even faster at a time when .223 isn't as cheap as it once was. Select fire M16s are a blast, but the slidefire to me is a pale immitation and one that will quickly loose its novelty and wind up back off the gun and on some top shelf collecting dust. A lot of cool upgrades you can do for your 556 with $350 in my opinion, but thats all this is---my opinion.

What really matters is you are happy with your decision.

Hey, i warned you a rant was coming!


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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:58 pm 

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I fired a friends slide fire and it was just as controllable as an M16 IMHO!!!!
I work with a guy who has a many full auto dealer samples and I have shot them a lot!
The slide fire is very comparable and a load of fun!!!!!!!!

It's all abuot the fun!!!! Who cares what the slide fire looks like it works great!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:42 pm 

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I care how it looks....

i know thats highly ironic coming from me, but i spent a good bit of cash making mine look like an original 551A1 and find it fun to shoot as is.


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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:53 pm 

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if your stock is the M-4 carbine style I know how to modify one to function like the slide fire and cheaper too, but it uses a spring ( this is what killed the aktins) and is not legal by BATF regs because of the spring
I would post a diagram on how it is done, but i don't wanted to get banned from this site I am new here

you could always go the rubber band route, to find that you need to hit You Tube

once you have perfected the rubber band trick you will never want to buy a slidefire

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 Post subject: Re: Think this bump fire stock will work on a 556?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:45 pm 

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Thanks for looking into this, but despite starting this thread I've decided that unless I win the lottery the only full auto or bump fire device I'm interested in would be in .22LR, registered machineguns even in that caliber are too pricy and I don't think any legal bump fire devices would run off of a 22's recoil, so I don't think a bullet hose is anywhere in my future.

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